Me: if you keep saying "no" all the time it's going to get tuned out. Him: but I don't want him to do that Me: ok but your dog learns by getting it right, not by being told no. Him: so if he's doing something I don't want you want me to ignore that Me: no, you should make time to redirect your dog into something the dog can succeed at. Him: so I just let him get away with it?! Me: no? If he's up on the counter you say "down" and when he gets down you say "yes!", that's the dog getting it right. Just yelling "no" from the couch won't work. Him: but he's getting rewarded Me: he's getting rewarded for getting down when you said to get down Him: he should get punished Me: for what reason? Dogs don't learn from punishment, they can't connect the crime to the consequences like cognitively. So you're just being sadistic at that point. Him: how am I being sadistic? Me: punishing a dog is like spanking a baby, it's just cruel for no good or useful reason