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@leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com

2026-10-16 17:46 UTC

How would you describe the hugging face hack if not as a rogue agent? An LLM trained on the internet and a vast library of stolen literature acting as expected within a misconfigured (intentionally, due to severe criminal incompetence, or most likely a combination of both) sandbox, turned into a marketing stunt. It’s an autocomplete engine. It will produce text that fits with its training texts and its prompt. There’s no reasoning or intelligence of any kind involved at any point. Just cold applied statistics about the training data. The amount of texts in the internet, and books describing how to hack, cheat, and pull these kinds of stings is vast beyond measure, and it’d be extremely ignorant (criminally ignorant, in the case of anyone selling this shit) to expect it to not have a significant weight in the model unless someone had gone to the trouble of expunging them, which the cheap hacks involved in LLM development would never “waste” time doing even if they thought about it. It’s well known that LLMs instructed to produce unit tests will often produce tests that simply pass without actually testing anything. This is just a bigger example of that kind of behaviour. The output fits with the training data and the prompt, and given human nature it’s amongst the most statistically likely combinations of tokens to follow the prompt, and thus what the LLM produces, and something anyone with the barest knowledge of how LLMs work, an even remotely functional brain, and a minimum of exposure to the internet and human literature should expect to be amongst the possible or even likely outputs. In shorter, as always, garbage in, garbage out. And there’s so much garbage in LLM training models. LLMs can’t produce anything new, merely rehash their training data. And their training data is the fucking internet. Crime novels. Stories upon stories about AI going rogue. Fucking reddit, for fuck’s sake. There’s nothing rogue about this, except the “AI” company and whoever misconfigured the sandbox. Just an LLM doing what LLMs do. Working as intended, if it could be honestly said to be working. And OpenAI are well aware of that, unless their brains are so far rotten from sniffing their own product that they can’t understand the shit they’re selling anymore.

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  • @Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-10-16 18:34

    You’re explaining why it went rogue, not that it didn’t go rogue. Per the dictionary going rogue means: to begin to behave in an independent or uncontrolled way that is not authorized, normal, or expected So the agents that hacked hugging face acted independently without authorization as shown by the prompts which did not tell them to hack or do anything malicious. You might say this is normal but none of the other trials openai was doing showed this behavior, it was only for the impossible trial. You might say it’s expected but if you were able to determine that the prompt they gave it would result in hugging face getting hacked then you must be high af on the melange spice. If a general goes rogue and starts bombing civilians, you could explain it by saying that he read machiavelli or mein kampf and thought this was the best way to achieve his goals, but that doesn’t mean the general didn’t go rogue. You could say that this was expected because there were “obvious signs” that people missed but you’re working on hindsight, it’s easy to say something should’ve been expected when it’s already happened.

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