@Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world
2026-10-28 15:40 UTC
Replies (6)
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@IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 2026-10-28 16:03
Well, both have their issues. Gradual reform will be the work of generations, and good luck keeping everyone pointed in the same direction for that long. Sudden revolution overcomes that issue, but it’s basically a dice roll on what you are going to get on the other side of it. The idealized version of the outcome that the initial revolutionaries present is very rarely what you actually get.
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@riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2026-10-28 16:22
i believe that social change is necessarily a gradual project, because we need to build the new systems and learn to act self empowered and build new relations to each other and all of that takes time and room for experimentation. people can show great initiative during power vacuums, but if they never experienced anything else, i think they are likely to just reproduce what they already know. the important thing is that states and private companies can not bring those gradual changes. they can make things easier, encourage things, and open doors, but at the end of the day it’s against their own interest to completely subvert their own power and we need to learn to be indepentent from them and reclaim our power. we have to be the change. we can’t wait for or rely on reforms.
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@jaycifer@lemmy.world 2026-10-28 18:51
Well, I’ve always been a Suzaku guy, but I get where Lelouch is coming from!
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@wezzzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2026-10-28 19:14
That depends on how you see gradual reform we need to build split power(power lose from the goverment such as local farming arming the working class) and change cultural stuff in that way gradual reform is needed for a revolution to start but if you mean it in the voting way its not gonna change much the whole voting system everywhere is to wraped up in big capital to bring actual changes best we can do is fight off collapse by voting left On revolutionary action and if it would work i think it would the system is not too stable right now everything is slowly crashing down it just needs a lil push(not saying it would be easy at all)
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@bss03@infosec.pub 2026-10-28 21:23
I prefer Kaizen (continuous improvement) but I’m also in a pretty damn comfortable position in the existing system. I can fully understand the desire for Kaikaku (radical change) and will mostly excuse (if empaneled to a jury, refuse to punish) behavior that rejects the status quo in favor of something better as long as “crimes against persons” are defensive and reasonably restrained.
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@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2026-11-02 06:30
i kinda feel like it mostly depends on where you are, tbh. Nordics? Gradual reform, and we could probably pull it off pretty quickly without anyone really noticing much of a difference tbh. America? Yeah good luck doing it gradually there before the heat death of the universe.